‘Our first cactus was in B flat’ says Jason Treuting. And so goes Kurt’s conversation withMatmosand So Percussion, two bands who’ve come together to makeTreasure State, an album made using the sounds of aluminum sheets, pails of water and yes, a cactus.

If you’re wondering exactly how this works, and how dangerous it is (for the cactus and the players’ fingers), see the video below. A warning though: don’t try this at home.

Listen to Kurt’s full conversation with the bands, and hear them perform live in Studio 360: